Ravelry, Politics, And Me

Ravelry, Politics, And Me

If you are a member of the fibre arts community you’d be hard pressed to remain unaware of a decision that has created a strong reaction in the community this week. I’m writing this piece as I know I have a lot of followers who do not knit or crochet, and may be wondering what is going on, but also because I think I need to make my own thoughts on the matter clear.

A lot of people have posted IG snapshots and tweets to say they support (or, indeed, vehemently disagree with) Ravelry’s new policy, but I felt like I needed to think on this more and explain why I think this decision is important and what my position is.

I joined Ravelry back in 2007 when the site and I were both a lot younger and my ideals were not as strong as they are today. But a lot has changed in the world in those 12 years and the increasingly extreme state of politics perhaps has strengthened resolve and opinion for a lot of people.

Ravelry’s Statement

On Sunday 23rd June, Ravelry made an announcement on their front page of a new policy, banning support of Donald Trump and his administration. I dare say many people who will read this that have already read the statement, and it has certainly raised a lot of strong opinion.

Ravelry has garnered a lot of praise from a large number of its users for taking such a forward stance, where other websites have been slow to condemn even the most overt racism and hate groups. Here in the UK and elsewhere in Europe we have seen the rise of a number of far right organisations that have openly used social media to gain advantage. Work by social media platforms in condemning and banning hate speech has been too slow. In a monumental ‘hold my beer’ moment, Ravelry has added specified and stated support of Donald Trump’s administration to the list of unacceptable behaviour on its website.

The Reason

Ravelry gives its reasoning in its statement, but the catalyst for what lead for the decision to be made and the statement posted on Sunday has not been expressed.

It may or may not be something driven by actions within the community itself, but as a member of the site who has even been somewhat removed from the fibre arts this year I am aware that there have been a number of projects seen to be inflammatory, carrying slogans such as ‘Build The Wall’ and ‘Pro Trump, Pro USA, Pro Life’, and a hat with a rainbow theme which the author states:

“As Christians we need to remember that God gave us a rainbow. It was a promise between God and His people. Our secular world has taken the beautiful meaning and perverted it. This pattern is meant to inspire people to embrace the TRUE meaning of the rainbow”.

This was pattern was posted during Pride month, an event which Ravelry supports.

A member of the community complained about one of these patterns, on the basis that it drove hate against a marginalised group. The member who made the complaint then had her personal information shared online amongst pro-Trump members and it was reported that a campaign of harassment followed.

Whether this led to any part of the Ravelry decision has not been said, but a great number of community members felt that a strong line needed to be taken against this behaviour.

The Reaction

The first wave of reaction, most visably seen as responses to Ravelry’s Twitter post announcing the policy change, seemed overwhelmingly positive. Users were grateful, but soon the backlash started. Not just from Trump-supporting Ravelry members who took exception to the term ‘white supremacy’ and the belief that Ravelry was labelling Trump supporters as supporting this personally, but from the much wider American conservative support on Twitter.

At the time of writing, Ravelry’s post announcing their policy change has attracted 92.8 thousand ‘likes’ and 36.7 replies.

The responses range wildly, but many are quite strongly worded, so please bear that in mind if you decide to read for yourself to garner the strength of response. There are a huge number of replies from angry men with usernames like Chuck78673923 and George82451295 who are tweeting to tell Ravelry that nobody cares. Literally thousands and thousands of nobodies there, caring.

And there are lots of people telling Ravelry that they will be buying their yarn from another yarn shop now (Raverly does not sell yarn) and quite a few people who may or may not even have accounts saying that they will delete those accounts.

I think the majority of negative responses fall into two fields though; the ones that state that you can’t be an inclusive platform when you practice exclusion, and those that are insistent that their freedom of speech is being illegally violated. There are even a fair number citing a law from California that they clearly haven’t read properly in the belief that privately owned website owners are legally obliged to give platform to all opinions, equally. This isn’t in the slightest bit true. Honestly, if someone posts something racist, homophobic or damaging to any other marginalised group on this website it will be deleted. This is my space, and I welcome people to use it with a my house, my rules understanding. Ravelry have decided that they are going to enforce their rules in their house.

Free speech does not work in the way that those people are insisting it does. You could spend many words explaining it, but this excellent and much-shared comic from xkcd has it in a nutshell:

Ravelry have stated that “We cannot provide a space that is inclusive of all and also allow support for open white supremacy. Support of the Trump administration is undeniably support for white supremacy“, and this is the section that seems to have drawn the greatest amount of ire from Trump supporters. Trump supporters are almost universally insisting that Ravelry is straight out calling each of them a white supremacist, which many have jumped to assuming that Ravelry are insinuating that they are running around with pillowcases on their heads. Ravelry owns the intention behind their words, but that’s not what the statement says.

It is stated that support of the Trump Administration is support of white supremacy. As far as I can see, it goes like this: if you support, vote for, and praise a racist Prime Minister on account of him once introducing a bike scheme and making you laugh on a panel show that one time, but let slide the racism and misogyny that he displays in daily life, you are supporting a racist Prime Minister.

Ravelry also has not, despite the repeated claims, banned any group of members for their political beliefs. It has simply instilled a ‘my house, my rules’ policy and asked all members to stick to it. All members, of all countries and all political affiliations are still welcome, they’re just asked to not post one particular area of content. Conservative and Trump supporting fibre enthusiasts are welcomed to come and talk about their knitting and crochet. They can wax lyrical about lawn mowers, their aunt Shiela’s bunions, how to grow carrots, or any other topic. But of course, that is a choice that each member needs to make for themselves.

My Position

I am from the UK, so I am not a Democrat or a Republican. American politics are the most tense that I can remember in my lifetime and I find it very difficult to look at what is happening in the US and current administration without feeling horror. This isn’t an American problem, though. Donald Trump is the global face of a shift towards far right ideology that we are seeing across the Western world.

Here in the UK we are on the brink of finding ourselves with a Prime Minister that the public have had no part in electing. The last Prime Minister sat on her hands whilst initiating a period of austerity that has hurt marginalised people, hard. She made no effort to right the devastating wrongs done to the people born here as part of the Windrush Generation, and saw no justice done to the victims of Grenfell.

We are within a whisper of seeing the UK headed by a man who described black people as being… actually, I refuse to even type these words on my site, so you can read it about it here, instead. When he was the editor of The Spectator he oversaw the publishing of an article that stated “Orientals … have larger brains and higher IQ scores. Blacks are at the other pole”. Speaking about about Malaysian women attending university, Johnson said “Female students go to university because they have got to find men to marry” and in case you were wondering what kind of person he was trying to attract to voting for his party, he said “Voting Tory will cause your wife to have bigger breasts and increase your chances of owning a BMW M3”.

So, as awful as I find Trump and his administration, and what they are doing on so many fronts, such as the squalid conditions of the child detainees at the Mexican border, it is not just an American problem. It’s much wider than that, and Trump sits at the head of the table.

Quite apart from their bufoonish attitudes, ridiculous hair and an insistence on creating such a firestorm of lies that you don’t get time to refute one before 20 more have come to take its place, these men are out to change the face of politics to a more exclusionary and frankly more dangerous place for a lot of marginalised groups. Far right groups love these leaders, because they are leading great swathes of people. Sometimes the politicians and leaders will try to distance themselves from some of their most fervent follower groups, but if you lay down with dogs, you’re going to get fleas, and if you make your rhetoric so amenable to a far right mindset, then you are going to have to live with the knowledge that you have gained a few passengers.

What’s Next? A Question Of Us

As far as my site goes, and my social media presences, it is status quo. There has never been a time when, if someone came in to my space to spread hate or attack marginalised groups I wouldn’t delete that post and ban that person. I can not make this safe space to all, or for myself, whilst being tolerent of intolerance. This is a moderated space that I welcome everyone into, but it is my site by my rules. This site has never experienced any problems in that regard, and I hope that is how things shall remain.

As a more practical move, though, I am going to be donating all of the proceeds of my pattern sales for the next month to a UK women’s charity, Refuge. I don’t make much so it shall not be a great deal, but it’s one small thing I can do. Its the only money I make at the moment so though the amount is small I hope this gesture does not fall short.

I thought long and hard what to do for my part in this, and this is what I can do. As a marginalised group in the UK, homeless women and children have suffered under the policies brought about by our current government policies. There are so many worthwhile charities both here and abroad, but I know the hard work this charity does in supporting vulnerable women and children and helping them stay together in safety.

I have seen a lot of people post about their donations to Ravelry, who have received multiple threats of future financial hardship from people who will not shop there in the future (though, to be honest, most of them were from people saying they wouldn’t be buying their yarn there, so I presume a lot never did shop there anyway). Regardless, this will probably hit their margins. I would never tell anybody else not to donate, but though I made a small contribution yesterday (£2.63 – it was what I had in my Paypal account), something just felt wrong. I think it’s because, really, I know that the people at Ravelry are likely better off than I am, but certainly better off than people that need urgent help and support. The people that are being really hurt by politics. That may be refugees, victims of policies that split families, people denied basic rights of living, and many others.

One way for everyone to win is to buy a pattern from somebody who is donating to a charity that you would support. The charity gets some money, Ravelry gets some money, maybe the designer gets some money too if they are keeping a portion of the proceeds? Or, buy a pattern from a designer of a marginalised group. Maybe take time to seek out a designer whose work you love that is perhaps under-recognised. You’ll boost their work by paying for their pattern. Again, Ravelry gets a cut, and then you can add that project to Ravelry to help raise the profile of that designer some more.

And Finally…

Ravelry has been hit by spammers over the past 72 hours. A group appear to have located a load of usernames/emails and passwords used on other sites on the internet. Some people use the same username and password on multiple sites, so they’ve been trying to access old accounts by trying those usernames and passwords, then adding current Ravelry members as friends. If you get one such spam ‘friend’ (that often has a dodgy looking link in the profile) click the ‘report this profile’ link.

Also, if you have an account you haven’t logged into for a while, log in, and change that password to something unique and secure. Superb work.

There may be things that I have missed. I am frankly a bit more distanced from the fibre crafts community this past year or so, and I have only just dipped my toe back into the knitted waters this past half a week. After my collapse I sort of drifted away as I could no longer physically knit, and I am honestly so unpracticed at writing now that it is hard to form sentences from the jumble of thoughts. If I have missed something or could do something better, please leave a comment and tell me if you are able. Comments will be moderated.

17 thoughts on “Ravelry, Politics, And Me”

  • Thanks, Mimi for this eloquent, thoughtful post. I have sent my husband a link — because what’s going on has reached the water cooler talk at his office (a tech company full of engineers) and I believe you’ve done a fine job. Off to pick out a new pattern., and continue to use my votes to be heard and my voice to help others.

  • Thank you for writing so eloquently about all of this. In such worrying times both here in the UK as well as in the US and elsewhere, it’s more important than ever that people/organisations say ‘Enough’, and take a stand. Otherwise, we’re all just sleepwalking towards who knows what.

    I laughed at the line ‘Thousands and thousands of nobodies, caring’. Genius. And true.

    I stand with Ravelry.

    • I really would like to just have a community to knit and crochet with. I don’t want to mix my love of fiber arts with politics. For that reason I quit ravelry today. I will not apologize for being white. And I resent being told I’m privileged because I’m white or someone else has it harder because they are not. They say I’m probably another ignorant, middle aged clueless female? Wow. Sounds a little racist to me. Good old reverse prejudice. My action was independent, I had no idea so many people were taking action. I’ll miss the patterns, I won’t miss Ravelry.com.

      • I do not think that Ravelry has asked you to apologise for being white. Has anybody asked you to make an apology because of the lightness, darkness or otherwise of your skin? I am white, also, and I have not found anyone demanding an apology from me.

        They say I’m probably another ignorant, middle aged clueless female‘ Who says? Ravelry? I think you may have been reading something quite different to the Ravelry announcement. I am also middle aged and female. I am not clueless, and I doubt you are, either.

        I also don’t think Ravelry even mentioned privilege in either of their announcement posts, so you may be conflating issues here, somewhat. But there is a difference between being privileged (coming from a background of wealth and plenty) and holding privilege in various areas of your life. Have you ever been pulled over by police because you are a black person driving a nice car? No? Well then that’s a privileged position over all of those who have. Have you had your ability to do a piece of engineering work questioned because you were the only woman in a male dominated engineering field? If you had then you’d have seen male privilege at work. I have been privileged not to have to face some struggles (I’ve never been denied opportunity because of the colour of my skin, never been ousted by my family due to my sexuality… etc) but I have also been denied privilege in other areas (I have experienced poverty, male violence, an upbringing of fear due to alcoholism). We are all a mixture of privileges and disadvantages. Each privilege we have gives us a bit more of a head start to achieving what we want for our lives, each disadvantage holds us back.

  • Yes, yes, yes, yes and yes!
    Particular kudos for articulating the toxic nature of our political climate in Britain for those here who might think “this is a US problem, why does it affect me?”.

  • Thank you. I’ve been an avid observer of US politics since Watergate (I was in junior high) and voted in every election since 1980 (as an aside, I’m still peeved that Carter conceded to Reagan before the polls closed in California — where I voted — but one day, I’m sure I’ll get over it), and I can also say I’ve never seen this state of affairs, this degree of partisanship, this rabid demonization of the other — the United States I love is nearly unrecognizable. While there are a great many people making noise and pushing for a return to decency, common sense, and the rule of law, we are drowned out by the white supremacists and Trumpsters shouting “socialism” at the least mention of exercising restraint, not to mention allocating funds toward making people’s lives better. It’s exhausting. I’m tired, my friends are tired, we’re screaming into the abyss and we’re not making any headway. And in the meantime, the House passes much needed legislation that dies at the hands of Mitch McConnell in the Senate. Trying to change things playing by the rules doesn’t work when the opposition refuses to acknowledge there *are* rules. I’m afraid we’re only months away from literal street rioting.

    By the way, if you want to really depress yourself, read Amy Siskind. She’s keeping track of the US descent into authoritarianism, week by week:

  • Dear Mimi, Thank you for this post. A long time ago, I gave up on “threads” or those email groups, whatever they were called. No matter how peaceful the topic that brought a group together, conversation on line always deteriorated. And I never could keep up. So when a friend hooked me up to Ravelry, I never joined a group or forum, tho’ I suppose I thought the conversation would only have contained disagreements about types of needles! So , although I was aware of the sites inclusive policy, I was very surprised when this new one came out. You gave a bit of background, which I wish Ravelry had. I appreciate the energy it took to write this thoughtful, eloquent post.

  • For someone who is finding it hard to write a sentence from a bundle of thoughts, you have done exceedingly well at expressing your stance. Like you, life has taken me away from the blogosphere, the fibre community and Ravelry for an extended period of time and I must say that I am relieved to have ‘missed’ the firestorm as it happened because there is enough stress in the world without adding more to the burden on one’s health.
    I try hard to keep my own blog free from partisan politics because that’s not the purpose of my blog even though I do agree that “the personal is political and the political is personal,.”. I wonder whether I will cop flack about purposely *not* discussing recent Ravelry events because I honestly was not around to witness all the drama and don’t really know the background. Your account here is the most detailed I have come across so far and it disappoints and upsets me that there are people who would want to harrass and abuse others in what should be a happy, safe space. Everybody seems to be talking about Ravelry’s decision but that would only have been prompted by some event that required a response, The media seem to overlook that side of the story.
    As an Australian blogger whose blog is about crochet, craft and chronic illness, I don’t feel qualified to make any commentary on international or political events, or feel that my blog is the appropriate forum. for such commentary. I totally understand though when an issue affects one to the extent that a statement needs to be made. Good for you!
    Thank you for providing more background from a Ravelry member’s perspective (I’m horrified that people used Ravelry as a channel to harrass others). Do take care of you!

  • Thanks, Mimi, for your thoughtful post – more nuanced than many I’ve seen out there. I am also in the UK, a lifelong left wing voter and all-round liberal though I lurch more towards green these days. I’ve also been with Ravelry since the very early days and loved that site with a passion. However, I’m extremely concerned about what Ravelry has done, just as I was extremely concerned about the hounding of Karen Templer, Kate Davies and others a few months ago. I loathe Trump, his politics, his personality, everything about him. I feel much the same about Boris et al too. But I absolutely defend the right of other people to support Trump or Boris without being labelled white supremacists. Half the US voting population voted for Trump, and Ravelry has basically told them that they’re all racists supporting white supremacy. I think this a big problem, not least of all because it’s evidently not true – many bipoc people voted for Trump too, just as many bipoc people support the Tories and voted for Brexit.

    It’s also a huge problem in that it will drive people further to the right by making the left look radicalised and unreasonable. This is exactly what happened with Brexit. If we’d been able to have a civilised conversation online and elsewhere about immigration – the benefits and the drawbacks – then we might have avoided the mess we now find ourselves in. But what happened was pretty much everyone on the left screamed ‘racist!’ at anyone who voiced any kind of concerns, just as the left pretends that immigration is always positive (tell that to the French populace in my French village, who’ve seen half their houses bought up by Brits who refuse to learn French). The progressive left (aka the social justice movement) has been very effective in shutting down any kind of opinion that doesn’t agree with theirs, and I don’t think that’s healthy. I remember a time when people could actually tolerate hearing someone disagree with them, and there was subsequently more nuance in debate. I hate how tribal everything has become, because tribalism encourages group think and drags everyone towards the extremes. You end up with a polarised society, and as we’re now discovering in Britain, that can feel very ugly indeed.

    The other problem I have with Ravelry’s decision is that there was a much simpler, fairer and less divisive way to deal with the issue of ‘offensive’ patterns – ban them all. Ban the ‘Fuck Trump’ scarves AND the Maga hats. But no, Ravelry decided to go full-on woke, thus alienating huge swathes of its users and politicising knitting and crochet across the board. If I were a conservative or Conservative knitter, no way I’d feel welcome on there now. I barely feel welcome as a leftie who’s had enough of the cancel culture and rampant virtue signalling online.

    • Hi Anya,

      Thank you for taking the time to give your thoughts so openly. I think we agree on some points, disagree on some others, but underneath it all I feel like you have given the conversation a lot of thought. I think there are probably a lot of different ways that Ravelry could have handled this, but I don’t know that any of them would have been ‘better’.

      I think if you are going to start by making a ‘no politics’ rule, you’d have to follow with a rule not to discuss religion, possibly race, and if not race, then not gender, sexuality – a whole plethora of real issues that affect the people that use the site. But people have grown with Ravelry in having this as a place where they can discuss these things as a community.

      I give an example: there are a large number of women who use the site. As many have said, women’s handiwork and the struggle for female equality have gone hand in hand since long before the suffragettes, and to force those two things a part does an injustice not only to the women that still employ the use of ‘womens work’ to herald their choices and voices, but also the long, rich history that precedes them. Where the distinction lies, to me, is that things like the Pussy Hat work as a protest for women and against the powers (governmental, societal) that try to subjugate them. The ‘F*ck Trump’ hat is a protest against a president and his administration that are using their power to treat people inhumanely.

      On the other hand, patterns like the ‘Build The Wall’ pattern, and the rainbow decorated ‘God is Great’ pattern* are looking to attack not government officials or people in power, but people in marginalised groups who are already being targeted with appalling treatment, as you will have seen with the detainee children on the border. Freedom of speech is the freedom to criticise the government, whereas hate speech is ‘abusive or threatening speech or writing that expresses prejudice against a particular group, especially on the basis of race, religion, or sexual orientation’. If there were one part of this whole thing that might be mildly amusing, it is the people that are decrying the loss of their freedom of speech have been dealt no such blow – people’s right to protest Trump’s government through their knitting is actually what is protected by the right to freedom of speech (though, again, that does not stand on a private site like Ravelry, and they would have the right to ban those patterns if they wanted to).

      *The God is Great pattern looks, on the outside, to be less offensive, but the description states ‘As Christians we need to remember that God gave us a rainbow. It was a promise between God and His people. Our secular world has taken the beautiful meaning and perverted it. This pattern is meant to inspire people to embrace the TRUE meaning of the rainbow. It is meant to be a reminder that God calls us to love‘. To say that the use of the rainbow to signify pride and freedom in sexuality is a perversion of the ‘true meaning’ of the rainbow is hateful. I think the word ‘perversion’ is used here very deliberately. The words and messages chosen by this designer are not unconsidered. This message still remains on the designer’s site. Also, as an atheist and lover of science, I’d like to just give support to the true meaning of the rainbow being that of light refraction through air moisture 😀

      So, to me, there is a moral distinction between what has been banned and what has not, but I certainly see that this is not a straightforward matter an others will have other opinions about whether the best course of action has been taken.

      What I have seen, however, is just some of the prolonged campaign of harassment that Ravelry staff have endured over the course of the past few months. Back in April I briefly got caught in the jumble of nasty harassment sent to the site owner’s way. There’s a group of Twitter users that tweet at Casey daily, with specially created twitter accounts that are named after him, with tweet after tweet about everything from his looks, his family, his sexuality, his gender. Anyone who has responded favourably to Ravelry (or, indeed, to show support for BIPOC in the fibre arts at all) can get dragged in and then mentioned in not just a few but literally hundreds of tweets whilst they comb through your internet past, tell you where they have found you online, what they’ve found out about your homelife and past. I know, because I was subjected to this, as have many others been. So, I don’t know that the ‘Trump support’ action is warranted with other political (religious, sexuality, etc) viewpoints as I do not think that anything else has come with a campaign of harassment of both Ravelry staff and users.

      I think the whole part about white supremacy could have been more clearly given, though. I can completely understand why it stings people to believe that they are being called white supremecists, or believing that they are being labelled as supporting of a white supremacist agenda. I don’t personally believe that was what was written. I write about it in the post above, but I think that people might support Trump for a whole plethora of reasons (his economic policies being given quite frequently) – they may even disagree with him on his detainment of migrant children in inhumane conditions, but if they praise him for one thing, vote for him, they are essentially keeping him in power to detain those same children in those conditions. A presidency puts it’s lines of power out in many directions, and you nobody can fuel only some of those power lines with their vote and their support. So, someone may think his economic policies are great, but by raising him up with support for those policies, they are also enabling his other policies.

      Like Boris – we can’t praise his bike scheme and support his bid for premiership without also supporting for premiership a man who is clearly a racist and misogynist because of all of the racist and misogynistic statements he has made.

      Well, this turned into a longer response than I had set out for. I hope that you find some peace in the knitting community soon. And I apologise for all of those ignorant Brits. There is no excuse for that, and I bet they all voted for Brexit as well. The level to which some people have no self-awareness is truly disturbing. Actually, they are self aware, they are also just selfish. People who have made their lot in life and do not want anybody to be able to afford the same standards as they have for themselves.

      • Thanks for your equally thoughtful response, Mimi. I’ve lost count of the bloggers and podcasters who post about this issue in the spirit of debate, but then delete every comment, however respectful, that doesn’t agree with theirs. In the interests of a ‘safe space’ for all. Right.

        I wasn’t aware of the harrassment of Ravelry staff. I can’t say that surprises me – there’s a lot of very aggressive people on the right. And a lot on the left too, as we know from the milkshakes. Not to mention all the harrassment I’ve seen on Instagram, people going on to designers and yarn dyers’ accounts and demanding they make a stance on diversity or the Trump ban on Ravelry. I’ve witnessed a great deal of ‘policing’ of makers who don’t comment or post about it, making it clear there will be negative consequences if they don’t fall into line. Truly sinister.

        I don’t think anyone is suggesting politics be entirely banned from Ravelry – I don’t think that’s remotely possible – just political patterns that are clearly designed to be inflammatory. And I would include Fuck Trump scarves in that category.

        Let’s not forget in our outrage about the border camps – and we should be outraged – that these existed under Obama. I didn’t actually believe this when I first heard it, but here’s a reliable source: https://www.newsweek.com/migrant-detention-centers-trump-obama-1447160 If there’s one good thing on a personal level to come out of all this upheaval in the knitting community, it’s made me reexamine my bias and try and keep more of an open mind, rather than rushing to judgement assuming I know everything I need to know.

        • I think re-examining biases in any form is a healthy thing to do, and perhaps one that we grow less capable or willing to do as we get older. I think that is also largely what many people are attempting to do, with varying degrees of success, in examining the societal racial, gender, sexuality, disability (among many other) biases that give some humans a block start in front of others.

          I don’t know that the harassment of Ravelry staff and other people in the yarn world is really comparison to the milkshake-throwing, to be honest. Maybe this is my own political bias coming into play here, but the harassment of people who have made a decision on their privately owned site to say that they won’t tolerate something that they find hateful, and actions against people such as Tommy Robinson, Farage et al, who are demonstrably divisive racists, and in the case of Robinson also well known for conducting campaigns of fear tactics and harassment perhaps suggest that protestable actions are more justified against the latter than the former. These past few days at least two high-profile yarn accounts on Instagram have been taken down by IG after a coordinated attack by a group who opposed their support of Ravelry, by making false reports against the accounts. Both were reinstated by IG once an actual human got around to looking at the reports.

          I think it is easy for many to ‘miss’ the craft world seeming (to them) to be a quiet and wholesome space with no negativity, but it was really never that way for so many people, and I think it’s important to give up that silence to work on how to make it better. I guess real change rarely happens quietly.

  • Thank you for your eloquent thoughts on this.
    I had an incident a few years back that made me realise how lucky/privileged I am to be a white woman in the UK: a man with several large dogs blocked my way and shouted at me for cycling (on a cycle path). I was shaken and in tears afterwards but it made me think how hard it must be for minorities of all sorts who attract negative attention for who they are/what they look like.

  • Im not on this site very often so I missed this last year. Thank you for showing everyone what tolerance is, and thank you for telling me how I should think! Hopefully, you were able to pick up on my sarcasm. You are showing exactly what intolerance is while pretending to be tolerant. That is nothing but hypocrisy !!

    • Nobody is telling you what to think. Nobody is telling you what to say. But people *are* telling you that they aren’t going to play host to vile rhetoric and hatred in their spaces. Freedom of speech does not entitle you to take up room in private spaces and websites, so it’s time to show people the door if they can’t abide by house rules.

      This is my space, and I will say whatever is important to me.

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